60) The Psycho Sequels

[00:00:28] Hello! Welcome back to Casabloga. In this episode I am covering The Psycho Sequels

[00:00:35] This is episode 60, which is a tenth episode.

[00:00:40] I don't think I mentioned in

[00:00:44] That... I don't think I mentioned in the first episode of the season. I think I did. I don't know. It's been so long.

[00:00:49] I am changing the way I'm doing every tenth episode instead of being

[00:00:54] Just a double movie, a double review, a double episode, whatever you call it.

[00:01:01] Instead of just being two movies, I'm...

[00:01:04] I could cover two movies, but for them I'm more likely to cover a series or

[00:01:11] multiple movies or

[00:01:15] something more than just two. In this instance, I am talking about three movies. My first year

[00:01:22] doing this

[00:01:24] for Halloween, I talked about Psycho.

[00:01:27] Well this time I am covering The Sequels

[00:01:31] Which is Psycho 2, Psycho 3 and Psycho 4 the beginning.

[00:01:37] Yeah, they were doing prequels all the way back in

[00:01:41] 1990. It's nothing new. I know a lot of people hate these movies, but like

[00:01:50] They say that when they haven't seen it. They... I've literally had... I've literally had people say

[00:01:55] I am never gonna watch those. I would never... There's no possible way. They could ever be any good.

[00:02:02] You can never top the original and

[00:02:06] honestly, that's...

[00:02:07] That's a horrible mindset to take just because you know it's not gonna be better than the original.

[00:02:14] You just hate on it and say it sucks. It's the worst thing ever.

[00:02:18] It doesn't have to be better than the original. It's you know and also

[00:02:26] with something like this

[00:02:29] there's

[00:02:32] There's absolutely no way to top the original. They were never going to top the original

[00:02:41] because it's such a classic

[00:02:44] or

[00:02:45] They did instead was Psycho 2 was make a really good movie.

[00:02:53] So I always say like stuff like this don't try to compare like oh, it's not gonna top the original

[00:02:58] Don't don't don't try to think like that. Don't think

[00:03:02] Don't think like that.

[00:03:06] Psycho 2 is a really good movie and I recommend it to everybody and everyone says no

[00:03:12] I've had a few people that said they've seen it and they liked it. Here's the thing I noticed the people who I've talked to who have seen it

[00:03:20] really liked it

[00:03:24] So yeah

[00:03:28] So Psycho 2 came out in 1983

[00:03:33] And it was directed by Richard Franklin

[00:03:35] It was written by Tom Holland not that Tom Holland and starring Anthony Parkins, Vera Miles and Meg Tilley

[00:03:43] Anthony Parkins of course reprises his role as Norman Bates from the original movie 20 years prior

[00:03:49] well

[00:03:51] 23 years prayer and

[00:03:54] Vera Miles also reprises her role as

[00:04:00] Lila

[00:04:02] Loomis

[00:04:03] She got married to Sam but Sam passed away between films though the actor did not

[00:04:09] In fact John Gavin who played Sam Loomis he didn't pass away till 2018

[00:04:16] So he could have reprised his role. I don't know why he didn't

[00:04:20] I'm not that concerned. I didn't like

[00:04:24] Sam Loomis as a character. I

[00:04:27] Don't know if I mentioned that in my

[00:04:28] In my episode about it. I just thought the acting on that character in particular was horribly done

[00:04:37] So I wasn't too upset that he didn't return

[00:04:39] Vera Miles is

[00:04:43] Still alive at 95. So

[00:04:47] Yeah

[00:04:48] She she can still act

[00:04:50] I think if she wanted to is has she what's the last thing she's been in because I don't think she's acted anything in a while

[00:04:56] Let's see much reason thinks she's been in

[00:05:00] I'm scrolling I should have looked this up before

[00:05:04] Okay, I see

[00:05:06] Last thing she was in

[00:05:08] Wow, there's a lot of stuff. She was in there it is

[00:05:11] 1995 a movie called separate lives so

[00:05:16] She could

[00:05:18] Be in stuff if she wanted to but she

[00:05:22] She retired I really wish she would at least

[00:05:29] Cameo and something because it would be cool to be like oh look there's Vera Miles legendary Hollywood actress and

[00:05:39] Speaking of her being legendary she like I like you just witnessed with me scrolling through all of her movie credits

[00:05:45] She was in a lot of stuff including a ton of TV a ton of movies and

[00:05:52] The only one I really know is I go

[00:05:55] She was in so many things, but I couldn't tell you any of them

[00:06:00] Anthony Perkins on the other hand I I got three listed here. It was an orient on the murder expert

[00:06:06] No, no, no, no, no, no, no

[00:06:09] Murder on the Orient Express the old one not the newer one

[00:06:13] He was in let me survive not the new one and the black hole not the newer one

[00:06:18] All these movies got remakes

[00:06:21] Meg Tilley is the sister of Jennifer Tilley and she was in road to Avonlea

[00:06:27] Which I did an episode on she was in

[00:06:30] Bomb Girls which was a show a few years ago about set in World War two and she's in checky

[00:06:35] Which is a series that's on right now Jennifer Tilley is a mainstay in the checky series and

[00:06:42] Meg is her sister and she

[00:06:46] She's in the show. She actually

[00:06:49] I don't want to spoil anything but

[00:06:51] Not screw it. Everyone's seen it

[00:06:53] Meg Tilley gets killed off. She plays herself. She gets killed off. I think that's kind of funny

[00:06:59] So the plot of Psycho 2 is it takes place 22. I think years later

[00:07:05] And it starts off

[00:07:08] Actually, probably the best way you could start a movie like this it starts

[00:07:13] with

[00:07:14] The shower scene in Psycho

[00:07:18] Like the shorter version it like jump cuts it like cuts out

[00:07:23] certain

[00:07:25] Thing it's a lot. It's a shorter version of the shower shower scene and as the camera pans away from

[00:07:32] the body and turns and

[00:07:35] Pants towards the newspaper on the stand it says

[00:07:39] Universal Studios presents and

[00:07:42] Then whatever like the camera pans out the window

[00:07:45] Like in the first one like it shows it goes there

[00:07:48] It's an edit here in the original movie. You can still see the window frame

[00:07:53] But they they edit this so in a way that you can only see the house no window like oh mother blood blood

[00:08:00] and then it is

[00:08:02] Psycho 2 and then it like

[00:08:05] plays the music and

[00:08:09] As the Sun comes up and it's in color and it's seeing I

[00:08:13] That was a perfect way to start this movie with famous shower scene

[00:08:18] the house framed in the window and then

[00:08:22] The Sun coming up in color you're introducing this black and white world to color

[00:08:27] And I think this is just the best way you could have opened this movie and

[00:08:35] I must talk about the music at this point

[00:08:38] They very easily

[00:08:40] could have done

[00:08:43] Something they could have made this a really bad movie. They couldn't know this you know

[00:08:46] This is a sequel to psycho everyone's gonna think you know

[00:08:50] You don't think of psycho and they could try to recreate it

[00:08:54] They could just try to do the same thing over again

[00:08:57] They could have tried to use Bernard Herman's music

[00:09:00] They could have just tried to copy what they've done before but no they did something completely different

[00:09:06] they

[00:09:08] They have obviously a totally brand new composer

[00:09:12] They a whole new person does the music and

[00:09:15] He doesn't even try to mimic Bernard Herman's music. He does his own thing and I think that's great

[00:09:21] I love it. They didn't even try

[00:09:24] To make this a copy of psycho. They did their own thing and I can't stress enough how much I love that

[00:09:30] That's like the first thing you'll notice when you start this other than that opening shower scene

[00:09:35] They don't try to copy anything and

[00:09:39] then after that after says like directed by it it cuts to a courtroom and

[00:09:48] Norman Bates has been found cured and being released

[00:09:54] Lila Newman wait no Lila Loomis is there

[00:10:00] It's like she's protesting I have signed this petition doesn't anyone care about the victims and

[00:10:08] Yeah, it just sets up that she's still angry in after first time I saw it

[00:10:14] I think the first time most people see it they just assume that she just makes a little cameo here at the beginning to show

[00:10:20] Oh, she's upset about this and then

[00:10:23] Norman gets driven to his the old house at the hotel the motel and

[00:10:30] His like therapists case worker. I'm not entirely sure who he is

[00:10:35] He's like are you sure you want to stay in this house?

[00:10:38] We could set you up a house or a hotel and in town and this you know as long as you stay in this house

[00:10:45] the memories could come back and he's like oh, I

[00:10:47] I'm good now and

[00:10:52] I

[00:10:52] Think Anthony Barkin's like he really stepped back in this role like they're very

[00:10:57] Very good way like he didn't just again

[00:10:59] I'm probably gonna be saying this a lot when talking about psycho too. They could have just done

[00:11:05] the same Norman Bates from psycho but

[00:11:10] and they could have just done like the same Norman Bates just aged up, but

[00:11:16] He's different. He's like

[00:11:18] He's still got the nervousness of the original norm of the original the original normal

[00:11:23] He is the original Norman Bates, but you know what I mean

[00:11:26] They didn't just

[00:11:27] Because 22 years have gone by and he's been in asylum or in prison or I think he's been in a hospital all this time

[00:11:35] I don't remember

[00:11:38] So after all of that, he's not gonna be the exact same kid we saw in the first movie

[00:11:44] And so like he has like

[00:11:47] completely new set of mannerisms and

[00:11:50] And all that and it was funny because I've seen these movies like a hundred times

[00:11:56] And I know it's the same actor playing the same role

[00:12:00] But it's and it's like 20 years 20 something years later. I

[00:12:07] Still can't see it

[00:12:09] Like in a good way though, like it's he didn't like it doesn't look exactly

[00:12:13] like

[00:12:14] Norman from the first movie just with like gray hair or something

[00:12:17] He actually looks and sounds different because again, he's older and

[00:12:27] I'm trying not to continue to say they do the wrong thing. It's different. It's not the same

[00:12:31] It's totally different because I could say that like about every single thing in this movie

[00:12:37] Even like the angles of the house you see like angles of this house. What is weird like?

[00:12:42] top down like looking down and it's

[00:12:46] I don't know every time I see it. It's just like oh that is such a cool angle of the house

[00:12:51] The famous house we all know the psycho house

[00:12:55] Which ironically

[00:12:57] Is the name of one of the books. Oh speaking of which I should probably bring up the books

[00:13:03] As you may or may not know psycho

[00:13:06] Is based on a book by robert block

[00:13:10] And when the book came out

[00:13:12] Alfred Hitchcock he found it before I think it was like either

[00:13:16] Before it was released or immediately after and he loved it so much

[00:13:20] He wanted to make it into a movie, but he didn't want the ending spoiled so he

[00:13:25] He either bought up all the books or had it like like talked to the publisher was like hey

[00:13:31] Stop this book until I make the movie. I don't remember exactly what happened, but

[00:13:37] He got to hold the book like this would be my next project and

[00:13:42] Yeah

[00:13:44] Obviously he became a huge classic hit that it is now in the book

[00:13:49] Is

[00:13:51] amazing I've read the book

[00:13:53] Like three different times. I listened to the audiobook a couple months ago and

[00:13:59] As much as I love the movie the the movie the first psycho is one of my favorite movies of all time and

[00:14:07] Like you'll pretty much hear all the time

[00:14:12] Psycho the book is

[00:14:14] better than psycho the movie

[00:14:17] because well

[00:14:19] many many many reasons

[00:14:21] but

[00:14:22] mostly that it like has more story there there's more happens and

[00:14:29] Obviously the book is more it's more gruesome. It's uh, it's a bloodier movie than

[00:14:36] Then it's a bloodier

[00:14:38] Book the book is wow the book is

[00:14:41] gorier and bloodier

[00:14:43] And more graphic than the movie because it's 1960 like there's not

[00:14:48] They're they barely got away with the shower scene. They filmed. They're not going to do the one that was in the book

[00:14:56] In the book it's like

[00:14:59] They like she's uh, she saw the butcher knife and uh

[00:15:04] It it cut off her screams

[00:15:07] And her head or something like that basically instead of just stabbing her a hundred times with a knife the

[00:15:15] Mother character cuts off her head and want one swift movement

[00:15:19] And it's like wow that is different

[00:15:24] And

[00:15:26] I'm not supposed to be talking about the first movie. I'm supposed to be talking about the books

[00:15:30] Oh, this is leading to that so

[00:15:32] rubber block did not want to make

[00:15:36] That

[00:15:37] Like I think he was against the making a movie a psycho to like making up their own story

[00:15:42] He's like wait. No, that was my story

[00:15:45] And like Alfred Hitchcock passed away and they were like, hey, we're going to make a sequel to this and he was like, hey

[00:15:52] No, you're not that's that's my story. You can't do that

[00:15:57] And then the studio was like actually we own the rights to the movie version

[00:16:01] And so we're going to do what we want and Robert was like

[00:16:06] Okay, if you're going to do that, I'm going to write my own sequel

[00:16:11] That is nothing even remotely close to what yours is

[00:16:15] And I'm not going to license it to you and they were like fine. You do that

[00:16:19] And then so they they made their own movie and he wrote his own book and they're not even remotely

[00:16:26] Related to each other in any way shape or form

[00:16:29] And you know what?

[00:16:33] psycho to the book

[00:16:34] is also

[00:16:36] Really good

[00:16:37] And it has a plot twist

[00:16:39] I did not see coming

[00:16:41] I'm not going to share that one because psych the book

[00:16:45] Psycho to the book is lesser known. I don't mind spoiling things in the book or the movie because

[00:16:51] They're so iconic at this point if you haven't seen a reddit, then that's on you

[00:16:56] The book on the other hand people avoid that because they're all at the sequel to a classic

[00:17:00] I'm going to not touch that but

[00:17:02] Yeah, you should you should touch that

[00:17:05] You should

[00:17:10] I almost worded that really wrong. You should touch all over that. No, uh

[00:17:15] I thought I realized what I was gonna say right before I said it you should

[00:17:20] Get the book ebook audiobook library book

[00:17:26] Whatever read it

[00:17:29] And watch the movie it too. I bought it on blu-ray. I bought the uh, it's a four movie psycho collection on blu-ray

[00:17:36] So I don't I couldn't tell you where they're streaming

[00:17:39] Or if they're streaming i'm they're probably on max. I have a feeling they're on max

[00:17:46] universal

[00:17:49] Probably peacock. I don't know. I don't know where they're streaming. I know they're streaming somewhere

[00:17:53] They have to be there's so I can't you know what?

[00:17:56] I'm gonna take the time right now

[00:17:57] To look up where they're streaming. I didn't I didn't think to look that up because

[00:18:03] I have them on blu-ray. So I didn't need to know where they were streaming or if they're streaming

[00:18:08] Okay, psycho one is on

[00:18:12] Prime video

[00:18:14] Uh, let's see

[00:18:16] It's not showing me

[00:18:18] I'm gonna have to manually look up psycho two

[00:18:21] Two that is

[00:18:25] Not streaming

[00:18:27] psycho three

[00:18:30] That is not streaming and psycho four

[00:18:38] Not streaming also so uh

[00:18:44] By the blu-ray

[00:18:47] You will not regret it. They are great movies

[00:18:53] I know i've been talking about

[00:18:55] He's saying the first one. Okay, so

[00:18:58] I know they're four movies

[00:19:01] They are four

[00:19:02] movies

[00:19:04] but

[00:19:06] The way I see them

[00:19:08] The way like in my head the way I envision them is there's psycho this massive

[00:19:13] Entity over here on its own

[00:19:16] If you think I've got this trilogy over here that's separate

[00:19:19] from from the big

[00:19:21] Giant over here. They've got this trilogy next to it

[00:19:25] and

[00:19:26] It's one continuing story kind of I'll get to that in the in the minute

[00:19:31] but

[00:19:34] Yeah, so when I say

[00:19:36] The first one I'm talking about the second one

[00:19:40] That's how that's how like ingrained it is in my mind that they're a separate trilogy. It's like so anyway

[00:19:46] The first movie wait. Nope the second movie

[00:19:53] I don't want to spoil too much

[00:19:55] I'll just kind of give like a spoiler-free

[00:19:58] Breakdown of it basically once he gets back to his house

[00:20:03] The um, he he has to start a job. I think it's weird and that's not weird that he has you know, he has to start a job

[00:20:11] Like he

[00:20:12] He's dropped off at his house

[00:20:15] For the first time in like 20 something years

[00:20:18] And then as his case workers leave because don't don't forget you start your job in a few hours

[00:20:24] At the cafe and he was like, oh I'll be there. So

[00:20:28] He he walks he walks there

[00:20:31] He's like a few hours out of the asylum or the hospital

[00:20:36] Of 20 years and he started dropping a cafe

[00:20:40] And I always thought that's that's a little rush give him like a week or two to kind of get

[00:20:45] settled like

[00:20:46] re-eclimated to the world

[00:20:49] But you know whatever

[00:20:52] They want to get the movie along they could have just done a time jump like, huh? I have like a line like oh

[00:20:58] Uh norman you start that job at the cafe in a week from today. Don't forget. I'll be there and then cut to him walking in

[00:21:05] It's like, oh, okay. You just jumped forward a week. He's more comfortable in the world

[00:21:10] But no, he's just automatically comfortable with the world

[00:21:14] Okay, I know what um, I know you're probably thinking I said, oh this movie is great

[00:21:19] This movie is so amazing. I'm just showing praise on it

[00:21:22] And so you probably think oh, I find no fault in that's fault in it

[00:21:26] There's no such thing as a perfect faultless movie. You can find criticisms about your favorite movie of all time

[00:21:32] so

[00:21:33] yeah

[00:21:35] I could say

[00:21:36] A hundred good things about it and I say one bad thing. I'm like, ah, see you hate it too

[00:21:41] You think it's stupid. No. No. No. It's just a criticism about this one scene

[00:21:46] But uh, he meets a co-worker there

[00:21:49] and

[00:21:53] I'm not gonna I'm not gonna talk too much about the details. I want to I want to but I'm not because nobody has seen it

[00:22:00] I'm the only person in the world who has ever seen psycho 2

[00:22:04] That's why they spent the money to put it on blu-ray

[00:22:07] Just for me. No kid. That'd be weird

[00:22:09] It's like they like email me like hey, I know you really like this movie

[00:22:14] So we put it on blu-ray just for you special packaging and everything

[00:22:18] And then we're gonna sell it to you because

[00:22:21] We're still a company. We got to make money somehow. These these were expensive to put together even though it was only like

[00:22:28] $30 for the collection

[00:22:31] That would be kind of weird

[00:22:32] anywhere

[00:22:37] I feel like if I keep talking about psycho 2, I'm gonna spoil it. So I'm just gonna move on to psycho 3

[00:22:43] and I will say

[00:22:47] Even though more happens in psycho 3

[00:22:51] I think it might be my least favorite of the trilogy

[00:22:54] Which that doesn't mean I hate it. I still love it. It's still one of my favorite movies because it's part of the psycho trilogy

[00:23:01] but

[00:23:03] Of this of the trilogy one of them has to be my least favorite of the psycho series and

[00:23:10] And 3 is is the one I like least

[00:23:13] But it's still like above everything else

[00:23:17] Pretty much, you know, you know what I mean? I still love it, but it's not

[00:23:21] anyway

[00:23:22] Psycho 3 is a 1986 film directed by Anthony Parkins. He

[00:23:28] was promoted to director

[00:23:31] He also played in it. It was written by charles edward

[00:23:36] Pogpogpagu

[00:23:37] Paru, I don't know and starring parkins diane scar will scarwood and jeffrey

[00:23:44] fi

[00:23:45] Faye

[00:23:46] I can't pronounce the name but all of a sudden

[00:23:51] Diana has been in mommy dearest star star ski and hutch, hawaii fivo the x files heroes and criminal minds

[00:23:59] and then

[00:24:01] Jeff has been in the lawnmower man machete

[00:24:06] Alita battle angel horizon and american sagas chapter one which

[00:24:11] Just came out in theaters. I saw it in theaters

[00:24:15] Chapter two comes up in like a month or so and I can't wait to see that

[00:24:21] I think they said it's going to be a trilogy. I don't remember but I liked it

[00:24:26] I didn't recognize him of course granted. This is like a 40 year difference. I probably wouldn't recognize him

[00:24:33] the reason

[00:24:34] It was my least favorites

[00:24:37] is

[00:24:38] They did kind of try to go back

[00:24:42] to it's kind of the movie people

[00:24:46] were kind of

[00:24:48] Expecting it does kind of rely on

[00:24:51] some of the

[00:24:53] Tropes from the first movie

[00:24:55] There's a character

[00:24:56] Who looks like mary and crane from the first movie

[00:25:01] Norman Caesar

[00:25:02] Is like taken back to that and he's just like oh, it's the girl from that

[00:25:08] From that movie. I remember her

[00:25:10] because

[00:25:11] Look, here's some flashbacks to me killing her and then

[00:25:15] I'm like looking surprised and here's some here's some some music

[00:25:20] That is reminiscent of the first movie and oh look

[00:25:24] Mary the mary and crane lady whose name whose initials are mc by the way

[00:25:29] They they point they literally point that out. It's like on her suitcase. He's like mc mary and crane

[00:25:36] and

[00:25:37] Uh

[00:25:39] and

[00:25:41] There's a scene where

[00:25:44] I do think this part's kind of cool where it's it shows the shower the

[00:25:51] He's you know because he falls in love with her for medicines like he did with

[00:25:55] With mary and and he does look through the hole

[00:26:00] Like the first movie

[00:26:02] The actual first movie not the trilogy first movie

[00:26:06] Uh, he looks through the hole sees her in dressing and

[00:26:11] Instead of it cutting to her in the in the shower it actually shows him like

[00:26:16] Doing the whole like outfit

[00:26:19] Walking to the room unlocking the door like going in there and he like pulls back the curtain and

[00:26:28] I'm not going to spoil anything

[00:26:31] But I do think that scene is kind of cool. It's kind of a twist on a classic scene

[00:26:38] but

[00:26:39] it does

[00:26:40] Still rely a little too much on the first movie like there's lines

[00:26:45] That he says he he once again says we all go a little mad sometimes

[00:26:51] and stuff like that. He just says there's like

[00:26:55] Big lines from the first movie. He just says it's like you didn't say that at all in the last movie

[00:27:01] And now here you are saying them here

[00:27:04] and

[00:27:05] Yeah, I mean I'm not saying it's all just rehashing the past like there are new things like the film starts

[00:27:12] at like a nunnery and like someone dies

[00:27:16] And I saw there's a documentary called like the psycho legacy and it's like

[00:27:22] Like talking about

[00:27:24] The history of psycho and how they're made and they interview some of the people who were in it and like the sequels

[00:27:30] and this uh

[00:27:32] This film starts

[00:27:33] Before it even shows like the paramount logo

[00:27:37] Or anything like the screen's black and it um the nun goes

[00:27:42] Uh, there is no god

[00:27:45] And it's like that was intense for the time like no one that's not something you'd see in the movie

[00:27:50] So they're starting the movie very controversial

[00:27:53] and

[00:27:54] And then like yeah, it shows her it actually you don't even see the hotel or anything the motel or anything for like the first

[00:28:02] Maybe five or ten minutes

[00:28:04] And it just like it follows the mary and crane looking character

[00:28:08] She's the nun

[00:28:10] And it follows her around as she gets picked up as a hitchhiker and then um

[00:28:17] She gets picked up by uh, not the greatest guy in the world

[00:28:22] and

[00:28:25] I'm not going to give too much away on that. I'm not going to say anything else on that

[00:28:29] um

[00:28:31] I will say I love the use of color in this movie like um in the first movie

[00:28:38] I'm there. We're going in the second movie

[00:28:41] they

[00:28:42] You know while they do their own thing the house just uses

[00:28:47] Regular lighting

[00:28:48] You know like you would expect to see in a house like normal

[00:28:52] orange yellow white light

[00:28:57] This just a regular light bulb and you don't think anything of it. That's just how a house is lit especially in the early 80s

[00:29:04] but in this one in psycho 3

[00:29:08] things are

[00:29:10] They have colored lights in there like there's red lights. There's green lights and there's like

[00:29:16] Like I don't understand why he would put those bulbs in

[00:29:19] but

[00:29:20] It does give the film its own unique look like there's

[00:29:25] Like they use a color in this film like they have color colored lights

[00:29:29] Like in the parlor in the back in the office of the hotel motel

[00:29:34] um

[00:29:35] Just different colored lights. It doesn't make any sense

[00:29:38] From like from like what like why would you put these colored lights in?

[00:29:42] It doesn't make sense why or when you would do that

[00:29:44] But it does make the film

[00:29:47] Look a little unique and I like it

[00:29:49] Right. I'm going to move on to psycho 4 at the beginning. It is a 1990 film directed by mc garis

[00:29:56] They didn't give it to perkins again. Do they not like it either?

[00:30:00] uh written by

[00:30:02] Joseph Stefano who I should add wrote the first movie

[00:30:08] The original offered his cock movie. He wrote it. He came back and wrote this one

[00:30:12] and it was starring anthony parkens henry thomas and uh

[00:30:16] Olivia hussey hussy. I don't know

[00:30:20] Do they get to use hussy?

[00:30:22] herwiser

[00:30:24] so uh

[00:30:27] Henry thomas

[00:30:29] He I do okay, so i've seen this movie

[00:30:32] A hundred times

[00:30:33] I did not know this until I went to go research this movie

[00:30:37] Because I I know the young norman bates. I know the young norman bates

[00:30:41] that

[00:30:42] The young norman bates. I know what he looks like

[00:30:45] I've seen this movie a hundred times

[00:30:47] I never

[00:30:49] Accorded me to look him up. You know who he was. You know who he played

[00:30:53] He was

[00:30:55] elliot

[00:30:56] And et the actual terrestrial the little kid from et

[00:31:02] He plays young norman

[00:31:06] ah

[00:31:08] um

[00:31:09] He was also in fire in the sky, which is that ufo movie which uh

[00:31:14] I might cover that someday. It's a really good movie. I like it. I play he was in gangs of new york dear john and dr sleep, which I

[00:31:23] Believe is that new movie? It's a sequel to the shining

[00:31:29] by steven king

[00:31:32] And olivia she was in death and an isle death on the isle not the new one the new one is

[00:31:39] A direct sequel to orient on the murder. Why do I keep saying that?

[00:31:45] And I don't know if this one that she was in was the sequel to the one athenae perkins is when it was in if

[00:31:50] So it's kind of like one of us, but she was also in murder. She wrote she was in it

[00:31:56] This was in lonesome dove and boy me to world

[00:32:01] So she wasn't a lot of things

[00:32:06] now this one

[00:32:09] It is a good one. I like how it tells two different narratives

[00:32:13] There's the present day one and then

[00:32:17] The the young norman one and I love the way they did this

[00:32:21] The way that they told the story is

[00:32:29] How I wouldn't be considered unique today, but I think it was unique for its time. I don't know if it was the first

[00:32:34] We would ever do this

[00:32:36] It's kind of the joe dirt route. I've seen people when I tell people about it. They're like, oh, so it's like joe dirt

[00:32:41] Eh not really because he's on the phone instead of in person, but yeah, he does tell his life story

[00:32:49] over the radio

[00:32:52] the film starts

[00:32:53] with

[00:32:55] um

[00:32:58] I forgot her name in the movie, but she's played by an actual dj

[00:33:02] and she's like has

[00:33:04] uh

[00:33:05] Like the theme of the episode is

[00:33:08] Like kids who kill their mothers or something like that

[00:33:12] And then like the first guys that they show it. Well, he's just like really sick and just kind of happily

[00:33:17] Oh, yeah, I killed her. I hated her and the grandfather was there and she's like

[00:33:21] So you're his grandfather his maternal grandfather. That means he killed your daughter

[00:33:27] Uh, does that not bother you? And then the grandfather's like my daughter was a stone cold

[00:33:32] B-word

[00:33:33] And it's like I I stand by my grandson and i'm proud of him and I don't

[00:33:39] Yeah, and I was like, okay. Well you do you

[00:33:44] And then um, she has a she has a guest on and it's the

[00:33:52] Psychiatrist

[00:33:53] I think from the first movie the alphaget clock one the one from the end who was like, uh

[00:34:00] Who explained?

[00:34:01] the the back and forth between the mother it's like, um

[00:34:05] No, no more. No more to get these charges and then the mother would come out and kill the girl that guy from the end of the first movie

[00:34:11] He's here

[00:34:13] as like the guest speaker

[00:34:15] on the show and he talks about

[00:34:18] how

[00:34:19] he wants to do the case

[00:34:21] um

[00:34:24] He basically describes the first movie like I I once had a case where this uh, this kid killed his mother

[00:34:31] And regretted it so he raced it from his mind and he would dress up

[00:34:35] To pretend to be her and then kill people as her and then blame the mother and then, um

[00:34:42] They get a call and it's norman

[00:34:47] And

[00:34:49] This is where i'm gonna say that you know, I could say joseph stafano wrote this one

[00:34:55] You're not really going to see any reference to psycho two and three

[00:34:59] The way he wrote it was as a direct sequel to the original movie

[00:35:07] He pretended like psycho two and three never happened

[00:35:10] which

[00:35:12] I think it's kind of cool. Actually the way that he can do that. I don't I think he said he didn't like the sequels

[00:35:19] Which fair. I mean, he's one of the few people I can say

[00:35:22] That you know, he has the right to say that because he wrote the first one

[00:35:26] and

[00:35:27] I don't know if it was like a jealousy thing like I didn't write those or like he legitimately was like, okay

[00:35:32] That was bad writing. I don't know. I don't know his mindset, but

[00:35:36] Him saying he doesn't like it

[00:35:38] that's fair

[00:35:41] So when he wrote the screenplay for this

[00:35:44] He wrote it as a sequel to the first one that he wrote and

[00:35:50] It works as a sequel to psycho three and it works as a sequel to psycho

[00:35:56] So either way you could skip the you could skip two and three. I don't recommend it

[00:36:01] But there you go

[00:36:04] So it has norman in a house

[00:36:07] a completely different house and

[00:36:11] He is married

[00:36:14] And his wife is at work and he's preparing

[00:36:19] He's cooking something and he's on the phone in the kitchen was like, oh, I can tell you

[00:36:24] I can tell you why uh like kids kill their mothers and

[00:36:30] He goes back and it shows like little kid norman and his mother you actually see mother alive for the first time norma base

[00:36:39] and

[00:36:40] And then I could tells the story of like him growing up. It's the first time he ever killed

[00:36:46] and all that and then it shows

[00:36:49] All the stuff he went through and then he kills her at the end

[00:36:53] And it's kind of what you'd expect. I like it

[00:36:58] um

[00:37:03] I

[00:37:06] I got said I really

[00:37:09] do like

[00:37:11] this movie

[00:37:12] but

[00:37:14] I think

[00:37:16] That this movie is now obsolete

[00:37:21] Due to the existence of baits motel

[00:37:26] Which I will not

[00:37:29] Spend too much

[00:37:31] time on in this episode

[00:37:33] Gonna leave it at that

[00:37:41] But I will say that the the ending of this kind of conclusively ends

[00:37:47] the series

[00:37:48] I mean, I'm sure if they wanted to make a psycho five they easily could have

[00:37:54] But it became a little harder

[00:37:57] to do that

[00:37:58] Because like I said this movie came out in 1990

[00:38:04] and sadly, anthony perkins passed away in

[00:38:08] 1992 he passed away

[00:38:11] on september 12th 1992

[00:38:15] And the irony of him dying on september 12th

[00:38:18] 92

[00:38:20] Is that his wife

[00:38:24] She was on

[00:38:28] United nine

[00:38:29] Flight she was on flight 11

[00:38:32] On september 11th the one that crashed into the north tower of the world trade center

[00:38:38] She was 53

[00:38:39] And she was on the plane that crashed into the north tower

[00:38:43] on the world trade center on 9 11

[00:38:46] So he died on september 12th. She died on september 11th

[00:38:52] nine years later, so

[00:38:56] Yeah, weird coincidence and just kind of a all's gonna say fun fact, but you know

[00:39:01] Not so fun

[00:39:02] Like fun fact Michael jfx is diagnosed with parkinson's disease like fun fact

[00:39:08] Anthony Perkins's wife was killed on 9 11 on the plane that was hijacked and slammed into the world trade center

[00:39:15] Isn't that a fun fact? Yeah, no, that's that's not a fun fact

[00:39:20] It's uh an interesting

[00:39:23] thing that I

[00:39:25] said

[00:39:27] I don't know. I'm trying to say something other than fun fact, but you know what? I mean

[00:39:34] This one did use bernard hermans music

[00:39:39] But I think that's fair because it's a prequel

[00:39:42] And it was written by the same guy

[00:39:45] And it's the closest to trying to copy the first one

[00:39:50] Uh, I guess

[00:39:53] Not so much there are some inconsistencies in it that I didn't like

[00:39:57] Uh again the very first one in the alfred hitchcock one whenever

[00:40:04] Norman and marion are in the parlor and they're eating and she's telling and he's telling her his story

[00:40:09] He said that you know, it was this mother and I and then this um, she met this guy and became my stepfather

[00:40:17] And he talked her into building this motel

[00:40:23] In psycho for the beginning the motel is always there

[00:40:28] Like he didn't talk her into building the motel the motel was already there. It was always there and uh

[00:40:36] Yeah

[00:40:38] so

[00:40:40] I

[00:40:41] Don't know why he would say that

[00:40:46] I don't know. I like it. It's like again, there's inconsistencies. There's

[00:40:52] This is thing. This is that's the bet that the downside of prequels is

[00:40:57] You know, sometimes that could be really interesting explaining how things got the way they were explaining like backstories and stuff

[00:41:04] but if there were like specific details

[00:41:09] that were talked about before

[00:41:12] and

[00:41:13] You forget about it and like

[00:41:16] writes around that or like don't mention that or

[00:41:20] Do something completely different it kind of makes it a little contradicting

[00:41:25] kind of like um

[00:41:28] I haven't heard that name since long before you were born

[00:41:31] But like he's literally called obi-wan like as lugan lea are being born

[00:41:40] You know like he said

[00:41:42] He fought in the clone wars. He didn't say

[00:41:46] Anything about being the one that started the clone wars

[00:41:51] Uh anyway

[00:41:53] prequels what are you gonna do?

[00:42:01] But yeah, those were the psycho sequels

[00:42:03] I highly recommend watching them. Oh, there was one more

[00:42:08] um

[00:42:09] I was gonna talk about I saw it a long time ago. I didn't watch it this time. It didn't come with

[00:42:16] I saw a collection of the psycho series that had

[00:42:21] Five six movies included but it was only on dvd and I wanted a blu-ray

[00:42:28] There is the 1998 psycho shot for shot remake

[00:42:34] And it's not very good. I seen it

[00:42:37] um, I could

[00:42:38] I could rant about that

[00:42:40] okay

[00:42:42] I

[00:42:43] You think i'm joking

[00:42:44] I was talking about it with a friend and at first I was like, oh, yeah

[00:42:47] I don't like they did this. I don't like they did that. They did this wrong

[00:42:50] They're trying to do shot for shot, but you know they changed norman's character

[00:42:53] They did this and this and this within like within a few minutes. Ila jake got angry

[00:42:57] And I was just like and then they also why would they do that? And they're like, okay, dude chill

[00:43:02] It's just a movie. I'm like, no, no, it's a classic and I was like, yeah, so

[00:43:07] At least I talked about that probably the better

[00:43:11] And then the other one I want to talk about that I I think I actually might be the only person who's seen it

[00:43:18] I think in the early 2000s they uh, no not 2000s um

[00:43:26] Late 80s very different time period

[00:43:29] Uh in the late 80s, I think between psycho two and three or psycho three and four

[00:43:36] They were going to

[00:43:39] do a

[00:43:41] psycho based series on tv

[00:43:45] called baits motel

[00:43:46] About and I I seen it once

[00:43:49] They they shot like the pilot and the first few episodes

[00:43:54] But it didn't get picked up so they combined it into like uh

[00:43:58] Like a tv movie

[00:44:00] And it's bad quality bad acting

[00:44:04] kind of a weird story

[00:44:07] Because you know, it wasn't meant to be a movie. It was a few episodes. So the story just kind of gets cut off

[00:44:13] It's not meant to wrap up in an hour and a half or however long it was so like

[00:44:19] It's just kind of this anomaly

[00:44:22] in the void

[00:44:24] And I still recommend watching it at least once

[00:44:29] just for how

[00:44:30] Different it is the premise

[00:44:33] Is this guy was friends with norman bates in prison

[00:44:38] and then norman passes away

[00:44:40] And he leaves a will and he wills

[00:44:44] the

[00:44:44] The motel in the house to this guy

[00:44:48] And then he gets released from prison because like he's cured or whatever

[00:44:52] And so he doesn't have anywhere to go except this motel in this house. And so he goes there and

[00:45:00] He he reopens the motel. He lives in the house

[00:45:03] And like he builds like this third structure like in off to the side of the parking lot

[00:45:09] and it was

[00:45:11] It was

[00:45:13] I don't remember too much. I remember thinking this is so weird

[00:45:17] and then like

[00:45:19] There's different guests that come in and like the guests are meant to be weird and there's like the house is haunted

[00:45:25] and

[00:45:26] I saw it like 10 years ago. So like i'm going off of what I remember from it

[00:45:32] And I could see why it wasn't picked up but like

[00:45:36] You know how they always say like

[00:45:38] You know a lot of shows like the first season is kind of limping along because they don't know

[00:45:43] They haven't figured out yet what they want to do and by season two

[00:45:46] They have all the kings worked out

[00:45:49] And like the characters are more developed and they have like a more coherent story

[00:45:53] And I think if they just

[00:45:55] I think they had an idea. It was an interesting idea

[00:45:59] And if they had just let it

[00:46:01] Run its course, I think it could have actually developed something

[00:46:05] Really interesting with it, but they were like, oh this isn't working. So we're just going to pull the plug

[00:46:10] And so um

[00:46:15] Yeah, when they announced Bates Motel the A&E series

[00:46:19] I thought it was just going to be this. I was like, oh, they're bringing that back

[00:46:23] But no, it was that's complete. That's completely different. It's a modern

[00:46:28] prequel

[00:46:29] to psycho

[00:46:31] And at first when I first heard about it, I'm not going to talk anything about it

[00:46:35] I'm not going to talk about I'm not going to talk about that show

[00:46:38] Nope, um

[00:46:39] I don't want to talk about it

[00:46:42] I will in fact

[00:46:44] um

[00:46:45] I'll end this episode here

[00:46:47] because

[00:46:48] This is already a long episode. Oh, yeah, it's it's an episode. So it doesn't have to be under 20 minutes

[00:46:57] But yeah, I'm just gonna end it here anyway

[00:47:02] And cut